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13-May-2005 03:44 GMT
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New! 8051 Embedded C for beginner (books)
Hi,

Anyone can tell me where can i download the C book (beginner) for 8051 or some web-page to guide the beginner to start 8051 in C?

Thanks..
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erik malund
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13-May-2005 14:04 GMT
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Were I ever to teach C I would use Stephen G. Kochan: "programming in ANSI C". It takes you from the beginning to a reasonable level in an easy to understand way.

That, as most/all C books do not address the '51 but without a clear understanding of C what is the purpose of using it on the '51.

The transition from C to '51 C is pretty well explained in the Keil litterature but that requires you to know C.

Erik
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13-May-2005 15:56 GMT
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Hi,

Can you explain more about this...

The transition from C to '51 C is pretty well explained in the Keil litterature but that requires you to know C.

I quick interested about this because i got learn C/C++ before but is basic,nevermind if can do transition not only can improve my C and also help me to run my 8051.

So, in order to run the 8051 we can use pure C program but only need to transition?

Is it i need another compiler or i just need to use uVision compiler to compile it?

Please can you show me where is the Keil litterature?

What the disadvantage if we use transition?

Thank You..
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erik malund
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13-May-2005 16:07 GMT
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language, language, language

The transition from C to '51 C
Meaning the conversion of your "programming practice" from "standard C" (all variables in the same memory, no bit definitions, use of malloc etc) to Keil '51 C (defined memory spaces, using bit, avoid function pointers, code variables etc).

Now, if you are not familiar with the intricacies of the '51 you WILL need to read "the bible" and the datasheet for the derivative you intend to use.

Erik
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13-May-2005 16:54 GMT
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hi,

Where is the link for Keil litterature ??

Ya i understand, how can i learn "standard C" (all variables in the same memory, no bit definitions, use of malloc etc) to Keil '51 C (defined memory spaces, using bit, avoid function pointers, code variables etc).
Ya i also understand if we want to set the uC function (eg. time/counter mode) then we need to see the datasheet already..

Can you teach me step by step how to do the translation..

Thank You..
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erik malund
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13-May-2005 17:15 GMT
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Can you teach me step by step how to do the translation.
Follow the uVision getting started manual it is on the same CD as the code.

Erik
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13-May-2005 17:29 GMT
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Hi,

Now i don't have the CD... So, what should i do??

Thanks..
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erik malund
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13-May-2005 18:17 GMT
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Now i don't have the CD... So, what should i do??

https://www.keil.com/demo/cdrom.asp

Erik
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13-May-2005 18:30 GMT
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Hi,

So, now i need to wait the CD come then we can discuss?? So now what should i do..?
Can you give me the direct contect like mail (eg. yahoo, hotmail, messenger) like that i can contect you if i got problem...

Thanks..
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erik malund
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13-May-2005 19:16 GMT
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So, now i need to wait the CD come then we can discuss?? So now what should i do..?
Well, you can read,read, and read, but without practicing (requires CD) I doubt much will stick.
Hunt around at this site, maybe it's available for download.

Can you give me the direct contect like mail (eg. yahoo, hotmail, messenger) like that i can contect you if i got problem..
I can, but I will not. The purpose of a forum is that all can see (and learn).

Erik
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krishna swamy
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16-May-2005 16:52 GMT
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u can download 8051/8052 tutorial from the below mentioned website.
http://www.8052.com

Krishnaswamy
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17-May-2005 02:01 GMT
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Hi,

Do you have any website for C language, i prefer C because it is more easily to learn..

Thanks..
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krishna swamy
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17-May-2005 12:51 GMT
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visit this url for C tutorial.
http://laurel.datsi.fi.upm.es/~ssoo/C/CE.html

Krishna
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18-May-2005 02:10 GMT
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Hi,

Do you have any C books for 8051 Embedded C..? There are different between ANSI C and 8051 Embedded C is it..??

Thank You
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erik malund
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18-May-2005 13:08 GMT
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Do you have any C books for 8051 Embedded C..? There are different between ANSI C and 8051 Embedded C is it..??

For the '51 you are expexted to know "the bible" the datasheet will show only what is different.

for '51 C you are expected to know C, the "datasheet" wull show only the differences.

Same thing.

Erik
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19-May-2005 07:36 GMT
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Hi,

Do you have the datasheet for it??
Can send to me??

Thanks..
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erik malund
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19-May-2005 13:09 GMT
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it??
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20-May-2005 11:06 GMT
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Hi,

If you all have any information or material source can send it to me...

tangbc05@yahoo.com

Thanks alot for helping....
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Andrew Neil
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20-May-2005 11:43 GMT
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"If you all have any information or material"

See my post of 5/19/05 8:57:04 - should be plenty there to get you going!
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Dan Henry
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19-May-2005 13:38 GMT
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it?? to be sent where??
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19-May-2005 14:57 GMT
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"So, now i need to wait the CD come then we can discuss??"

No, you don't.

The free evaluation download includes All the manuals in PDF:

http://www.keil.com/demo/

Be sure to thoroughly read the Limitations:

http://www.keil.com/demo/

Standard advice for Beginners:

First, you need to read the uVision Getting Started guide, and work through the example projects in it.
This will give you a proper introductions to the tools, how they work, and how to use them - rather than just jumping-in blindly at the deep-end!

If You are not already familiar with the 8051 architecture, you also need to read the following documents - commonly referred to as "the bible" for the 8051:

Chapter 1 - 80C51 Family Architecture:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/various/80C51_FAM_ARCH_1.pdf

Chapter 2 - 80C51 Family Programmer's Guide and Instruction Set:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/various/80C51_FAM_PROG_GUIDE_1.pdf

Chapter 3 - 80C51 Family Hardware Description:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/various/80C51_FAM_HARDWARE_1.pdf

Are you also a newbie to 'C' programming in general?
If so, you'll also need a good 'C' textbook.

Here are some other introductory & reference materials:
http://www.keil.com/books/8051books.asp
http://www.8052.com/books.phtml
http://www.8052.com/tutorial.phtml

You will need to read the Data Sheet for your particular processor, and the Manual(s) for any development boards, etc.

You will need to read the Manuals for the C51 Compiler, A51 Assembler, etc, etc,...

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