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Author Kevin Cenek
Posted 8-May-2012 03:49 GMT
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 Need some help in finding a suitable microcontroller
Kevin Cenek
Hi everyone, i'm currently choosing a microcontroller with at
least 1kbytes of on-chip sram/xram that can be used for xdata.
However, i would want to avoid having a big microcontroller like
DS89C450. SMD would work but i would want to it to have a socket. I
have search the web for the microcontrollers with at least 1kbytes of
sram/xram. The closest i can find that is DS89C450, the rest are SMD.
Maybe, i'm not looking hard enough but does anyone have any
recommendation?
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Author Tamir Michael
Posted 8-May-2012 07:55 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: Need some help in finding a suitable microcontroller
Tamir Michael
Why not go for a Cortex M0, then?
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Author Kevin Cenek
Posted 8-May-2012 08:35 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: Need some help in finding a suitable microcontroller
Kevin Cenek
Sorry, i forget to state that i will be using for Keil C51
Programming.
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Author Matthias Hertel
Posted 8-May-2012 09:43 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: Need some help in finding a suitable microcontroller
Matthias Hertel
What about the Atmel AT89C51RD2 or ED2? There is similar devices
from nxp, too. They should be available in PLCC.
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Author Kevin Cenek
Posted 8-May-2012 10:23 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: Need some help in finding a suitable microcontroller
Kevin Cenek
Yeah, i have considered those but i need SMD microcontroller with
socket.
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Author erik malund
Posted 8-May-2012 13:54 GMT
Toolset C51
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 HUH
erik malund
SMD microcontroller with socket
means
Surface Mount Device microcontroller with socket
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Author dazheng ling
Posted 8-May-2012 14:03 GMT
Toolset C51
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 URGENT.....What is the best mcu
dazheng ling
KR1816VE51
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Author Per Westermark
Posted 8-May-2012 14:20 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: HUH
Per Westermark
A surface-mounted PLCC socket would be close to what is
wanted.
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Author Matthias Hertel
Posted 8-May-2012 15:09 GMT
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 RE: HUH
Matthias Hertel
Are you looking for an SMD part or not? Yamaichi can provide
sockets for almost everything in various solder terminal variants
anyways... if cost is not an issue.
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Author Kevin Cenek
Posted 8-May-2012 15:24 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: HUH
Kevin Cenek
Ya, i am but with a socket since it's easier to put onto my PCB
board. So i assume there isn't any other SMD that comes with
sockets?
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Author erik malund
Posted 8-May-2012 15:56 GMT
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 less and less ...
erik malund
less and less devices come in socketable packages.
you may as well get used to modern packages, otherwise the choices
are very limited for modern devices.
SILabs has just about the perf3ct match for your requirements, but
not in DIL/PLCC
Erik
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Author Kevin Cenek
Posted 8-May-2012 16:15 GMT
Toolset C51
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 RE: less and less ...
Kevin Cenek
Oh okay, thanks for your reply. I shall seek an another
alternative then.
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Author Andrew Neil
Posted 8-May-2012 22:22 GMT
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 RE: with a socket since it's easier to put onto my PCB board
Andrew Neil
Sorry - that doesn't make sense! Sockets are big and bulky and
expensive!
Just putting an SMD straight onto the board is,
surely, far easier - you don't even need holes in the board!!
If you want to adapt an SMD package to 0.1" pin spacing, there are
adaptors available to do that.
Like this:
http://www.antronics.co.uk/images/smd_ad2.jpg
http://www.antronics.co.uk/images/smd_ad1.jpg
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/semiconductors/sockets-heatsinks/ic-sockets-package-adaptics-dil/
http://www.winslow.co.uk/adaptics
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Author Kevin Cenek
Posted 9-May-2012 03:38 GMT
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 RE: with a socket since it's easier to put onto my PCB board
Kevin Cenek
Well, thanks for all the help but i just found out that even if i
go for AT89C51RD2/ED2 i can't burn my program to it as it doesn't fit
on the burner and my keil uvision 4 does not have it in the device
list when i create the project. I will just stick to the big
DS89C450.
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Author Per Westermark
Posted 9-May-2012 08:03 GMT
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 RE: with a socket since it's easier to put onto my PCB board
Per Westermark
So you want a processor that can be specifically removed from the
PCB, and put in a programmer?
Move into the current century - get a processor that you can
reprogram while the processor is still soldered to the PCB. There are
a number of processors that have a good interface for in-application
and in-system programming. Some of them can be programmed with very,
very cheap programming adapters. Some of them can use the same cheap
adapter to debug the program.
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Author erik malund
Posted 9-May-2012 16:57 GMT
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 itty bitty processors
erik malund
itty bitty processors with ISP are plenty from SILabs.
as I originally posted SILabs have plent devices that fit
choosing a microcontroller with at least 1kbytes of on-chip
sram/xram that can be used for xdata. However, i would want to avoid
having a big microcontroller
Erik
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