USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

 USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

I got the code USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx from NXP working fine with none RTX kernel but It does not working with RTX kernel. If anyone know more detail please help.

Thank you.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

try looking on subject "LPC2368 bootloader and RL-ARM":
http://www.keil.com/forum/docs/thread13106.asp

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Hi noom noise,
I had the same problem on lpc2378. I've made my project work with non-RTX bootloader and my RTX project.
I'll try to explain what I've donne:

1. Bootloader project is the one from NXP site:
http://www.standardics.nxp.com/support/documents/microcontrollers/zip/an10759.zip

All values in the bootloader project are at their default. Just unpack USBMem folder. Leave the other one. Alas, no RTX there. Compile, Flash->Erase, Flash->Download. A window displaying your device as mass storage device under windows should appear at your screen.

2. In my RTX project I've changed following:

A) Project->Options for target->Target:
IROM1 start:0x2000 size:0x7E000.
(from 0x0 to 0x1FFF is bootloader)
(size = IROM1_size - 0x2000)

IRAM1 start:0x40001000 size:0x7000
(I was playing with bootloader IRAM1_size. And in my case, bootloader needs somewhere around 0xDFF of RAM. So in order not to overlap it's area, my IRAM1 starts at 0x40001000. Moshe Tal suggested 0x40000100 for his lpc2368 - not enough in my case. Try playing with IRAM1_size in bootloader project to determine your minimum...)

B) Project->Options for target->Linker:
Misc.controls: --entry 0x2000
(that is of course, where your IROM1 starts)

C) Project->Options for target->User:
Run user programs after build/rebuild:
fromelf --bin .\out\my_project.axf -o .\out\firmware.bin
(that way firmware.bin will be created, which you can copy to the device from PC over USB)

D)Project->Options for target->Output:
check create hex file

E) Right click on your startup file:
options->Asm->ConditionalAssembyControSymbols:
RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE
( This is Keil's description of what should happen:
; * RAM_INTVEC: when set the startup code copies exception vectors
; * from on-chip Flash to on-chip RAM.
; *
; * REMAP: when set the startup code initializes the register MEMMAP
; * which overwrites the settings of the CPU configuration pins. The
; * startup and interrupt vectors are remapped from:
; * 0x00000000 default setting (not remapped)
; * 0x40000000 when RAM_MODE is used
; * 0x80000000 when EXTMEM_MODE is used
; *
; * EXTMEM_MODE: when set the device is configured for code execution
; * from external memory starting at address 0x80000000.
; *
; * RAM_MODE: when set the device is configured for code execution
; * from on-chip RAM starting at address 0x40000000.
)

F) Finally, I had to Copy my interupt vector table from declared beginning of my application's IROM1 to the actuall beginning of IROM1:
Put this at the beginning of your RTX's main():
memcpy((char *)0x00000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);

(it seems that even though I used remapping (step E), code always jumps to IVT of the bootloader, that is, from 0x0..., so not exactly what you may expect after remaping to RAM... And thats why I had to copy my IVT from 0x2000 to 0x0).

G) I also had some problems with interrupts which were happening before my RTX-application's main(). I was debugging something with interrupt driven UART before the main(). When I cleared those printf functions, everything worked well. So maybe it would be wise to disable interrupts before your main()...

Also, just to mention, as RTX uses SWIs, I have SWI_Table.s file included in my RTX project.

And that's all I had to do. My RTX application works perfectly with non-RTX bootloader that NXP supplied.

NOTE:
Here I have one MCB2300 board whith lpc2378 revision '-' on it. There was no chance to make the bootloader work with it. Not even with MAM disabled. I made it work only on my prototype which uses revision 'B' of lpc2378... So if you are not using revision 'B', maybe that could be the problem... Although I'm not quite shure...

I hope this helps...

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Just to make this easier, I uploaded this bootloader packed with simple RTX application which uses serial port 1 at baud rate 115200.

It prints some test messages, and then loops in "init_task" to echo input from keyboard...

Here is rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/172963074/non_RTX_bootloader_with_RTX_application_for_lpc2378.rar

Link will be active for 90 days from now as I understood from rapidshare...

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Predrag,

I almost never do this, but I had a look at the code you posted. I am afraid that I do not understand why your application does this:

memcpy((char *)0x00000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);

maybe I missed something, but are you not trying to write into internal flash here...?
if you are trying to remap interrupt vectors, well, then you can use the facilities of the startup file of the RTX application by the macros

RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE

or do this in the bootloader:

<code to disable interrupts>
memcpy((char *)0x40000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);
MEMMAP = 2 ;
<code to enable interrupts>

now I have a small question: what will you do if your bootloader needs to jump to a software components that remaps the vectors, which then jumps to your RTX application...?

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

You don't need the file SWI_Table.s in your project at all. you only need it if you want to implement your own SWIs.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Thanks Tamir,

I quite agree that instead of

memcpy((char *)0x00000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);

there should be

memcpy((char *)0x40000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);

That was leftover after experimenting a milion times :)....

But this is what I don't understand:
You said that I should use either:

RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE

or:

memcpy((char *)0x40000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);

But in my case, I do use

RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE

but I also have to copy vectors manually. Nothing works if i do not copy IVT manually.

In other words, "RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE" does the remapping, but doesn't copy the interupt vector table as I would expect it...

Or are you saying that "RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE" should move IVT and there is no need to do this manually?

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

that is exactly what I am saying. an application that uses these macros, makes its startup file copy the vectors and set MEMMAP for it (have a look in the startup file - search for 'memmap'). this should be done in the application. however, you can do the mapping manually in the bootloader instead - using memcpy and MEMMAP. about my question: if you have a piece of code (bootloader) than jumps to software that is intended to handle interrupts, that jumps in its turn to an RTX application (no interrupts handling intended here), then the handling will be a little different: the mid section will use the macros to remap the interrupt vectors, but the startup file of the application must do something like this:

LDR   R0,=RAM_BASE+0x28
LDR   R1, =SWI_Handler
STR   R1, [R0]

to copy the SWI handler of application to the internal memory - otherwise RTX will not start. this arrangement makes sure all interrupts but the SWI will be handled in the mid section software.
just one more comment: too bad you posted and never correct code that is clearly misleading...

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Corrected version of above file is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/199103956/non_RTX_bootloader_with_RTX_application_for_lpc2378.rar
(This works with new RTX (from v3.40) of uVision). Old version is deleted from rapidshare.

Please note that in my case (in this example)

RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE

ASM option for startup file does not remap IVT as Tamir Michael suggested. I have to say

memcpy((char *)0x40000000, (char *)(0x00002000), 64);

(see __rt_entry...)

This is part of startup file that has to do with those macros:

; Memory Mapping (when Interrupt Vectors are in RAM)
MEMMAP          EQU     0xE01FC040      ; Memory Mapping Control
                IF      :DEF:REMAP
                LDR     R0, =MEMMAP
                IF      :DEF:RAM_MODE
                MOV     R1, #2
                ELSE
                MOV     R1, #1
                ENDIF
                STR     R1, [R0]
                ENDIF

So uVision generated REMAP and RAM_MODE, but not a RAM_INTVEC part... And I guess that this is the reason why vectors are not remapped as in Tamir's case, but have to be copied manually in my case...

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

wait a minute. the following instructions should reside in your startup file, just above the code you quoted:

; Copy Exception Vectors to Internal RAM ---------------------------------------

                IF      :DEF:RAM_INTVEC
                ADR     R8, Vectors         ; Source
                LDR     R9, =RAM_BASE       ; Destination
                LDMIA   R8!, {R0-R7}        ; Load Vectors
                STMIA   R9!, {R0-R7}        ; Store Vectors
                LDMIA   R8!, {R0-R7}        ; Load Handler Addresses
                STMIA   R9!, {R0-R7}        ; Store Handler Addresses
                ENDIF

I am using the remapping macros without a problem.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Exactly, that is missing!
I copied this file from Keil...
RAM_BASE, is undefined in my project. Can you please tell me from where did you copy your .s file? This one is Keil's, but is obviously missing something...

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

if you look at the lastest released LPC2400.s, line 61 looks like this:

RAM_BASE        EQU     0x40000000

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

Ave, Tamir!

This gave me a lot of headache!
Startup file when I started my project was 20k. Today it is 37k.
I jus needeed to copy .s file from "Keil\ARM\Startup\Philips\" to my project over old one and now everything is defined.
I've read a bunch of documents searching why those macros won't work :)

Thanks once more!

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

You're welcome.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

don't forget to bless your "rapidshare" clients with your findings :-)

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

This is the final version of the example, all works as it should:

http://rapidshare.com/files/199128828/non_RTX_bootloader_with_RTX_application_for_lpc2378.rar

(all other links from above are deleted...)

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

I found more problem with startup file when running after bootloader, that required workaround.
In startup file (LPC2300.S) there is code that setup stacks for each ARM mode.
To do that the program is trying to enter each mode with MSR instruction and changing the value of SP (stack) register.

But, after bootloader this code will not work, and all special mode stacks will remain as setup by the boot loader, and probably will overwrite program memory every time the ARM enter to special mode (For example - every IRQ call and every task switching).

This problem seem to occurs because MSR instruction (switch ARM mode) doesn't work when ARM is in User mode, only when ARM in special (supervisor) mode.

After ARM reset the MCU run in Supervisor mode, so this code run well. but after bootloader the ARM run in User mode.

My solution was to force ARM to enter supervisor mode before running stacks setup code by calling to SWI. This require changing of SWI vector, that was easy after remapping vector table to RAM.

Here the updated code:

; Setup Stack for each mode ----------------------------------------------------

; Stack setup code will not run when MCU in User mode
; as occur when this code run after secondary boot loader
; The following code will do fake calling to Software interrupt to enter Supervisor mode
; so stacks init code will work properly.

SWI_RAM_ADDR    EQU             0x40000028
                                LDR             R8, =SWI_RAM_ADDR         ;
                                LDR             R7, [R8]                          ;Save SWI_Handler address
                                LDR             R9, =Stack_Set_Addr
                                STR             R9, [R8]                          ;Replace SWI_Handler (for next command) with Stack_Set_Addr
                                SWI             11                                        ;Just jump to Stack_Set_Addr in Supervisor mode

Stack_Set_Addr  DCD             Stack_Setup

Stack_Setup             STR             R7, [R8]                          ;Restore SWI_Handler address
;End of edit
                        LDR     R0, =Stack_Top

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

yes you are right - of the jump to the application can be done in a SWI function.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

How can you change the SWI vector in bootloader?

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

is the bootloader performs a SWI, and the application later remaps the vector using the macros, does it matter?

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

I hope this piece of code will clarify what I mean:

// switch to supervisor mode so that stacks in the next startup file can be set (once is
// user mode, only an exception can bring the processor out of it. SWI is such an exception.)
void __swi(0) jump_to_application_code(void);
void __SWI_0  (void)
{
    void   (*lp_application_start)(void);

    // interrupt vectors are mapped using the RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE macros in the ASM tab of uv3
    lp_application_start = (void (*)(void))APPLICATION_FLASH_START;
    lp_application_start();

}

int main(void)
{
        jump_to_application_code() ;
}

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

I don't fully understand.
If this code will placed in the bootloader, why do you need to add vectors remapping to bootloader also?

P.S.
You need to be sure that your bootloader don't use this software interrupts.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

the comments are misleading a little; the remapping occurs in the application.

You need to be sure that your bootloader don't use this software interrupts

Could you explain why? I'm not sure I fully understand.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

I think that to use with SWI in the bootloader your code isn't enough. You need to change SWI_Handler in bootloader startup file to jump to SWI target code.

If you already use with SWI in bootloader code - you need to add something like SWI_Table.s also to your bootloader.

For details see - Help file->RealView Compilation Tools Instruction->Embedded Programs->Software Interrupt Handler.

 RE: USB secondary ISP bootloader for LPC23xx with RTX Kernel problem

I think that to use with SWI in the bootloader your code isn't enough. You need to change SWI_Handler in bootloader startup file to jump to SWI target code.

of course, as was done.

 How to debug the 2nd Bootloader/Application model?

I have a question about how to debug the 2nd Bootloader/Application model. As Moshe Tal pointed out, there are some problems that require workaround. One of them is: the 2nd Bootloader jumps to the Application in the User Mode, so when the Application starts, it fails to setup the stacks of special CPU modes. I can use the uVision to debug the 2nd bootloader or to debug the Application. But how can I debug both the 2nd Bootloader and the Application? If the main purpose is to make sure how the 2nd Bootloader affects the Application. I mean, run the 2nd Bootloader, get the state while the 2nd Bootloader just finishes its work, then start the debugging of the Application?

 RE: How to debug the 2nd Bootloader/Application model?

if the bootloader and the application are separate binaries, you cannot do what you describe. but why would you? they are separate entities anyway, that should not affect each other (unless software is updated).

 Some questions about SWI and KEIL's SWI_Handler

http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/rlarm/rlarm_ar_svc_func.htm

SVC functions can still be interrupted.

http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/rlarm/rlarm_ar_swi_func.htm

Software Interrupt (SWI) functions are functions that run in Supervisor Mode of ARM7â„¢ and ARM9â„¢ core and are interrupt protected.

SWI functions can still be interrupted by FIQ interrupts.

Is there a SWI_Handler provided by KEIL, that can be included without RTX kernle?

If we use the SWI function with RTX kernel and its SWI_Handler to jump to the application, will the later interrputs work?

 RE: Some questions about SWI and KEIL's SWI_Handler

Is there a SWI_Handler provided by KEIL, that can be included without RTX kernle?

if you remember how RTX is configured, you will know that RTX imports the RTL SWI handler. you can always add your SWI.s file to define your own SWI functions, as explained in the user manual of RTX.

 RE: Some questions about SWI and KEIL's SWI_Handler

Hi Tamir,

Thanks for your responses.

I will do some simple tests to make sure some basic points.

Looks like you use the RTX kernel on BOTH your Bootloader and Application?

 RE: Some questions about SWI and KEIL's SWI_Handler

Looks like you use the RTX kernel on BOTH your Bootloader and Application?

My bootloader is as simple as it can be; it either jumps (via a SWI) to the application or updates the application software. No RTX there, just an infinite loop.

 Problems about Debugging

I use the LPC23xx USB Bootloader from NXP directly, I do not modify anything of it. I download the Memory.bin (Bootloader) into my LPC2378. And I have an application with RTX kernel, I follow the solutions mentioned in the above of this thread.

1. Set IROM1 Start: 0x2000 Size: 0x7E000
2. Set IRAM1 Start: 0x40000200 Size: 0x7E00
3. On the Startup file of my application:
Set Options-> Asm-> Conditional Assembly Control Symbols: RAM_INTVEC REMAP RAM_MODE
4. Add the below code into the Startup file of my application.

; Setup Stack for each mode ----------------------------------------------------

; Stack setup code will not run when MCU in User mode
; as occur when this code run after secondary boot loader
; The following code will do fake calling to Software interrupt to enter Supervisor mode
; so stacks init code will work properly.

; Start of edit

SWI_RAM_ADDR    EQU             0x40000028
                                LDR             R8, =SWI_RAM_ADDR         ;
                                LDR             R7, [R8]                          ;Save SWI_Handler address
                                LDR             R9, =Stack_Set_Addr
                                STR             R9, [R8]                          ;Replace SWI_Handler (for next command) with Stack_Set_Addr
                                SWI             11                                        ;Just jump to Stack_Set_Addr in Supervisor mode

Stack_Set_Addr  DCD             Stack_Setup

Stack_Setup             STR             R7, [R8]                          ;Restore SWI_Handler address

; End of edit
                        LDR     R0, =Stack_Top

After all of that, I start my Debug Session. The Disassembly Window shows the Machine Code/ASM Code of the Bootloader (without the Source Code). Then, the Bootloader jumps to my application. So that, I get the state while the Bootloader just finishes its work, and pass the control to my application. I can observe the CPSR and the R13/SP of Supervisor Mode etc, to see if the solutions works properly.

My problem is: sometimes the "memory re-mapping" works fine, sometimes the "memory re-mapping" just doesn't work; it seems it is related to the breakpoints I set; but I am not so sure.

Does anyone else encounter the same problem? And How do people debug your Bootloader/Application?

 RE: Problems about Debugging

I have never encounter a situation where these macros don't work. why are you augmenting the startup file? that is not required at all. just make the function that jumps to the application a SWI function, not forgetting to create a SWI table in a separate .s file as well documented.

 RE: Problems about Debugging

http://www.keil.com/support/docs/2963.htm

ARM: ATMEL REMAP CAUSES PROBLEMS WITH ULINK DEBUGGING

The REMAP feature on Atmel devices exchanges RAM and Flash areas. When the remapping is done before ULINK can stop the device, you will see swapped memory areas in the debugger and the CPU may not behave correctly.

 RE: Problems about Debugging

-> just make the function that jumps to the application a SWI function,

Hi Tamir,

I tried to do that once or twice, but failed. When I get a better understanding of all of these, maybe I will try it again.